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@fourth: As it turns out per the article writer's ...

2008-09-19T13:42:00.000-04:00

@fourth: As it turns out per the article writer's addendum (posted after receiving about 100 comments!), her "holiday ham" comment wasn't supposed to be insulting.

OK. Fine. If she says so.

But it sure rubbed me the wrong way.

Thanks for sharing this article. I adore Joan and ...

2008-09-19T13:37:00.000-04:00

Thanks for sharing this article. I adore Joan and she is gorgeous, but I've often remarked while watching the show (in completely positive way) how much it pleases me that they're using fuller actresses to replicate the ideal body type of the 1960s (which was in no way today's scary size 0 idealism). So, I'm not convinced that the author of the LA Times article was trying to be disparaging of Joan--I think she was pointing out that fuller figures are starting to be "in" again (an idea that's problematic in and of itself!)--but the headline is definitely in pretty poor taste.

The answer to the question the article poses is a ...

2008-09-07T03:01:00.000-04:00

The answer to the question the article poses is a simple "No, she's not too plump for primetime." She looks great.

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2008-09-06T10:31:00.000-04:00

*standing ovation*

I posted a comment but yeah, this is something tha...

2008-09-05T23:02:00.000-04:00

I posted a comment but yeah, this is something that gets under my skin too.

Joan/Christina is a gorgeous woman and a talented actress. The fact that her curvy figure was at one point described as a "holiday ham" was at best a lame comment and at worst a way to take Christina down a notch by suggesting she's less than human or not pretty.

Now, part of me wants to say "But she's not even "fat" so why give her the guff" but at the same time, why the frak is "fat" a pejorative term at all?

Why can't we have people who look like someone not a size -1 on TV and not freak out?

I'm particularly aware of this issue as a very dear friend of mine happens to be Velvet D'amour, who crashed the glass ceiling of Paris fashion with her very ample curves (she is 5'8" and about 300 lbs) and is gorgeous too. She has been someone who has conistently fought for REAL diversity, saying that we can't say one style of body is ok and one is not, that real diversity means that she, and her model colleagues of all sizes can walk the runway for Galliano or Gautier (as they have).

More to the point all this nail biting about Christina's figure misses the point - she is a talented actress who has brought life to a role in a period production in ways most could not pull it off. I'll take Christina, Velvet, and the many awesome actresses of all sizes who are great at what they do over someone who got the gig because she's a size 0 and has no talent.